Do you have to work at the CBC to know what’s best for the CBC?

15 comments:

  1. Fake Ouimet
    Posted February 6, 2009 at 11:44 am | # | Reply to this masterpiece

    H.H., well gladly run anonymous guest posts. Or pseudonymous. You can call yourself Dooce if you want, though based on the photographic evidence, her husband is way hotter.

  2. Herbert Helbig
    Posted February 6, 2009 at 11:23 am | # | Reply to this masterpiece

    This, however, involves more work than writing a pseudonymous comment.

    Does it? See, CBC offered me a job and I wanted to work there and I still want to work there, and try to do my best at changing fucked-up things in the operation, when and whereI can. So why should I turn intelligence on my paltry gruntwork into full-blown posts? Title of first and last post “Dooce Me, Hubie!”.

    Having a Teamakers where the teamakers can make contributions as comments when and where they enhance the conversation is valid. So throw us a few bones. Instead of having to get all freaking ‘META’ about the blog –something I will gladly self-shitcan myself from again, for good.

    Not everything in the place needs to be an argument.

    I admit, I’ve been too harsh, especially on Allan, and it comes from my own nostalgic relationship with A.Ouimet, summed up tidily in this video. Nuff respect, jPodders!

  3. Fake Ouimet
    Posted February 5, 2009 at 7:37 pm | # | Reply to this masterpiece

    I am merely one of a chorus of heavenly voices on this Weblog, whose new state, some of us accept, is not the same as any of its old states. Its not like Im running the show here (anymore).

    And yet again, Terry the Web is a participatory medium and you may make this blog more of what you want it to be. This, however, involves more work than writing a pseudonymous comment.

  4. Messy prose douchebag corrector
    Posted February 5, 2009 at 3:38 pm | # | Reply to this masterpiece

    That’s the bottom line on of work at this whole work at CBC vs. don’t work at CBC argument that produces the friction, and keeps those comment tallies hovering near zero.

    Whoops

    **That’s the bottom line on** this whole work at CBC vs. don’t work at CBC argument that produces the friction, and keeps those comment tallies hovering near zero.

  5. Terry Jacks
    Posted February 5, 2009 at 3:31 pm | # | Reply to this masterpiece

    I must say, though, I love the fan-fiction angle. Mind if we use that?

    Yah, go for it, because it’s the EXACT point about Teamakers2.0. You need to be a bit more straight up about what it’s about nowaday. Your current communications strategy is lazy, and prone to trolling.

    You didn’t do sweet F A to rebrand the site and reflect its new direction, so you pay the price of living up to the editorial ghost of A. Ouimet until you do.

    Christ, some people have even been aping my schtick in the comments. Yawn.

    Guys, rock out to your heart's delight on the plastic Guitar Hero guitars, but don't go messing with the Stratocasters connected to the Marshall Stack amps turned up to 10 unless you can play a few chords.

    Then grunt CBCers could envy you for having all the fun of playing the rock, without all the roadie-esque drudgery of picking the green M&Ms out of the bowl for some diva, or cleaning up metaphorical puke that smells like metaphorical Jack Daniels from some metaphorical Hotel Room.

    That's the bottom line on of work at this whole work at CBC vs. don’t work at CBC argument that produces the friction, and keeps those comment tallies hovering near zero.

  6. Allan
    Posted February 5, 2009 at 2:43 pm | # | Reply to this masterpiece

    Ask me what it’s like to work alongside joe.
    It’s a freakin’ nightmare!
    But I readily bow to anything he says with regard to matters in his field of expertise.
    joe is not directly the subject of this post, but there’s usually one comment trying to personalize the topic, so I expected it to veer off road.

    I don’t accept that the CBC has standards that are higher than those offered up by joe.
    If a competent person comes knocking on the door of the CBC, and they refuse to open that door and let him in, I think that reflects more on the CBC than on the candidate.

  7. Stan Wilkes
    Posted February 5, 2009 at 2:42 pm | # | Reply to this masterpiece

    This headline just in from the theonion.ca …

    Teamakers comments actually address subject matter of post

  8. Fake Ouimet
    Posted February 5, 2009 at 2:42 pm | # | Reply to this masterpiece

    It went OK, I said, not well. I am not prone to chickening out, so draw your own conclusions. In retrospect, whoever got the job got a thankless job, especially now.

    I would certainly correct your rendering of dissing on the copy desk, incidentally, not that I ever was in that orbit.

    I must say, though, I love the fan-fiction angle. Mind if we use that?

  9. Anonymous
    Posted February 5, 2009 at 2:06 pm | # | Reply to this masterpiece

    I take issue with Anonymooses taking it upon themselves to adjudge my suitability for the Corpse.

    Wow, you should work for a PR agency.

    The judgement is on the suitability of you talking about working at the Corpse when you don’t.

    It’s not my place to say if you are technically qualified. Face it though, there’s a social/subjective side to working in any office and coming across as a Joe-know-it-all will not score you any points.

    So, you want(ed)/considered a job at CBC. You had an interview, and it went well (which is none of our business but you offered it up), but you don’t work at CBC. Something there doesn’t add up.

    I speculate (but I wasn’t there) that you either didn’t get an offer, or you chickened out of an offer because you would end up working for people who wouldn’t give you much more than the time of day, based on your history of diss-ing the work they do.

    Frankly, having no connection to the innards of CBC makes any speculations about it look less like a critique and more like fan fiction.

  10. Fake Ouimet
    Posted February 5, 2009 at 1:24 pm | # | Reply to this masterpiece

    Oh, you kids.

    I never tried to get a job with the Spacers™. I put my name in with the new-media kids (and the copy desk actually, the copy desk would have been better). The official interview was fine. Im not complaining about any of that, and you shouldnt, either, because you werent there and I was. I take issue with Anonymooses taking it upon themselves to adjudge my suitability for the Corpse.

    We dont have Alphonse Ouimet overhearing gossip on the green elevator and relaying it here. We dont have A. Ouimet doing all the things that A. Ouimet used to do. Some of us have managed to accept this. We these selfsame people may criticize the actual competence of CBC insiders from time to time. A classic free-speech argument then ensues: If you dont like the way we wrote about something, write about that same something yourself. Use your superior knowledge, gained from experience, to prove us wrong. Comments are always open and are barely ever moderated, and guest posts are wide open.

  11. Anonymous
    Posted February 5, 2009 at 12:45 pm | # | Reply to this masterpiece

    … it is quite OK to criticize or evaluate the CBC from the role of viewer.

    Absolutely. Critiquing viewer-ly, listener-ly or user-ly aspects of *consuming* the CBC is totally necessary.

    That isn’t always what you guys are doing, though. You speculate about the mechanics of internal decision-making, or how people do their jobs in various departments.

    That’s a realm best suited to doo-doo disturbers and in-house gadflies like Ouimet. You need to have done some time in CBC, or at least in some other white collar govt. job to really ‘get’ that aspect of things. There’s no way around it. Even if it was doing consulting or freelancing. Having been a worker in the vegan sausage substitute factory gives someone a unique take on the making of vegan sausage substitute.

    In other words you should have at least seen a segment on ‘How It’s Made’ about the making of the vegan sausage substitute if you want to talk about how the vegan sausage substitute is made.

    And you should also know — and this is a valuable life lesson — that, if someone hypothetically talks shit about a place — down to the employee level — and has a rep for doing that, why would anyone hypothetically in the hiring process do more than the bare bones for that person? Didn’t you learn anything from your spat with Spacing?!?

  12. Fake Ouimet
    Posted February 5, 2009 at 11:11 am | # | Reply to this masterpiece

    I thought there was an unstated hiring freeze.

    I had an official and an unofficial interview at the Corpse last year and the official one went OK. You may be beaten to a pulp once you get a job there, but I think the interview process is adequate. The official one.

    Also, perhaps seven years ago I was given the Newsworld take-home test. You are to rewrite a print news article for broadcast, among other tasks. I looked at it for ages and took all sorts of time to think about it, but nothing changed: I didnt even know where to begin.

    The lesson I would impart from my experience is that it is quite OK to criticize or evaluate the CBC from the role of viewer. You dont have to witness the making of the vegan sausage substitute to have an opinion about tofu.

  13. Anonymous
    Posted February 5, 2009 at 9:17 am | # | Reply to this masterpiece

    No, you don’t. But to really screw things up you must come from a non-broadcasting background. Take King Richard for instance, he thinks he is Roone Arlidge but dosen’t know shite from shoe polish. Most of the CBC’s former programming talent pool now works for CTV. I wonder why?

  14. Anonymous
    Posted February 5, 2009 at 7:45 am | # | Reply to this masterpiece

    Plenty of jobs here

    Go on. Apply for one of the journalism jobs. Maybe senior technology writer would suit you. Then you could really put your Maffin where your mouth is!

    Whassamatter? Nuts in a vise? Cat got your tongue? CV disappointingly short, out of date and peppered with failures?

    O is for out-of-your-league!

  15. Anonymous
    Posted February 5, 2009 at 7:04 am | # | Reply to this masterpiece

    You ought to get a job there and find out.

    Think you’d even get an interview?


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