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	<title>Comments on: The Utter Boredom and Bullshit of Jian Ghomeshi</title>
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	<description>They offered me the office, offered me the shop. They said I&#039;d better take anything they&#039;d got. Do you wanna make tea at the CBC? Do you wanna be, do you really wanna be a cop?</description>
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		<title>By: Allan</title>
		<link>http://www.theteamakers.com/2010/01/28/the-utter-boredom-and-bullshit-of-jian-ghomeshi/comment-page-1/#comment-15562</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for reading.
The post is a bit long and even a bit strange.
This is a reaction to spending a couple hours watching Jian perform in a very unique forum.
To sit and listen to him, to his answers and his statements was enough to make a person&#039;s head explode - pretty much that&#039;s what you&#039;ve been reading.
I invite you to add the pieces that followed this post, dealing with the Thornton interview in more detail.

Jian and George may harken the advent of a new &quot;culture&quot; to some, mostly those who have given up thinking, dreaming, yearning.
But the criticism aimed in their direction has nothing to do with younger replacing older, and everything to do with replacing smart, daring and honesty with the fake and pretentious and dumb.

By the way, Dave, what ever happened to Vancouver?
It used to be so creative and brave, and unimpressed with the efforts of corporations to co-opt youth culture.
Now, the culture there sucks, really because there doesn&#039;t seem to be any culture there at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for reading.<br />
The post is a bit long and even a bit strange.<br />
This is a reaction to spending a couple hours watching Jian perform in a very unique forum.<br />
To sit and listen to him, to his answers and his statements was enough to make a person&#8217;s head explode &#8211; pretty much that&#8217;s what you&#8217;ve been reading.<br />
I invite you to add the pieces that followed this post, dealing with the Thornton interview in more detail.</p>
<p>Jian and George may harken the advent of a new &#8220;culture&#8221; to some, mostly those who have given up thinking, dreaming, yearning.<br />
But the criticism aimed in their direction has nothing to do with younger replacing older, and everything to do with replacing smart, daring and honesty with the fake and pretentious and dumb.</p>
<p>By the way, Dave, what ever happened to Vancouver?<br />
It used to be so creative and brave, and unimpressed with the efforts of corporations to co-opt youth culture.<br />
Now, the culture there sucks, really because there doesn&#8217;t seem to be any culture there at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in Vancouver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave in Vancouver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a long opinion piece, and given how it keeps hammering away at certain points, it starts to come across as a screed. You undermine the very points you claim to make. 

CBC has made key decisions about its target demographic before. I remember as a child how all the parents used to love the singer Juliet and her show (&quot;Our pet, Juliet&quot;). When Beatlemania hit in the early 1960s, networks on both sides of the border decided this required a new line-up of programming to address this new world order. In a way, it was, as the boomers were coming of age, leading to an incredible focus on youth and youth culture. I was an AM radio fanatic in the early 1960s and I remember, there was a point where a Frank Sinatra song was bumped off the hit parade by a Beatles song. Then, a Dean Martin song bumped the Beatles down the charts. I realize in retrospect that was the last gasp of the popular culture of our parents&#039; generation&#039;s culture as the predominant mainstream. 

I don&#039;t watch any TV so have not seen Strombo. I think Jian is a very good interviewer. Anyone I know who heard the Thornton interview thinks he was very professional in how he handled Billy Bob&#039;s blow-up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a long opinion piece, and given how it keeps hammering away at certain points, it starts to come across as a screed. You undermine the very points you claim to make. </p>
<p>CBC has made key decisions about its target demographic before. I remember as a child how all the parents used to love the singer Juliet and her show (&#8220;Our pet, Juliet&#8221;). When Beatlemania hit in the early 1960s, networks on both sides of the border decided this required a new line-up of programming to address this new world order. In a way, it was, as the boomers were coming of age, leading to an incredible focus on youth and youth culture. I was an AM radio fanatic in the early 1960s and I remember, there was a point where a Frank Sinatra song was bumped off the hit parade by a Beatles song. Then, a Dean Martin song bumped the Beatles down the charts. I realize in retrospect that was the last gasp of the popular culture of our parents&#8217; generation&#8217;s culture as the predominant mainstream. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t watch any TV so have not seen Strombo. I think Jian is a very good interviewer. Anyone I know who heard the Thornton interview thinks he was very professional in how he handled Billy Bob&#8217;s blow-up.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.theteamakers.com/2010/01/28/the-utter-boredom-and-bullshit-of-jian-ghomeshi/comment-page-1/#comment-11769</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 18:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with the comment that CBC &#039;ignores&#039; Canadian, Quebecois, and Aboriginal artists. The CBC, be it Radio One, 2 or 3, is the only way Canadian artists would ever get airplay in our own country other than local college radio. Try harder, listen longer and at different times and different CBC stations.  It&#039;s not boring and Canadiana is everywhere on the CBC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with the comment that CBC &#8216;ignores&#8217; Canadian, Quebecois, and Aboriginal artists. The CBC, be it Radio One, 2 or 3, is the only way Canadian artists would ever get airplay in our own country other than local college radio. Try harder, listen longer and at different times and different CBC stations.  It&#8217;s not boring and Canadiana is everywhere on the CBC</p>
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		<title>By: bubble-writing girl</title>
		<link>http://www.theteamakers.com/2010/01/28/the-utter-boredom-and-bullshit-of-jian-ghomeshi/comment-page-1/#comment-10948</link>
		<dc:creator>bubble-writing girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He broke my heart (or rather popped a hole in it...)</description>
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		<title>By: letitb</title>
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		<dc:creator>letitb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ode to GHomesi.....rEad it....poor jian he&#039;s just aworking stiff like the rest of us poooooooor sods!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ode to GHomesi&#8230;..rEad it&#8230;.poor jian he&#8217;s just aworking stiff like the rest of us poooooooor sods!</p>
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		<title>By: Marion Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.theteamakers.com/2010/01/28/the-utter-boredom-and-bullshit-of-jian-ghomeshi/comment-page-1/#comment-10943</link>
		<dc:creator>Marion Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There  is a standard in media talk.  For example, in pop music, no matter who makes the music, from certain words are sung in a deep southern accent and certain words are given da &#039;hood accent.  In the spoken word , the mid atlantic accent is at the power center.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There  is a standard in media talk.  For example, in pop music, no matter who makes the music, from certain words are sung in a deep southern accent and certain words are given da &#8216;hood accent.  In the spoken word , the mid atlantic accent is at the power center.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smashing! One of the best pieces yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smashing! One of the best pieces yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.theteamakers.com/2010/01/28/the-utter-boredom-and-bullshit-of-jian-ghomeshi/comment-page-1/#comment-10887</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of the bullshit of Jian Ghomeshi, he got a case of the Madonnas on air this morning and started talking with a British accent.

What an asshole.  Identity crisis!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of the bullshit of Jian Ghomeshi, he got a case of the Madonnas on air this morning and started talking with a British accent.</p>
<p>What an asshole.  Identity crisis!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Allan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The main thing is that the measure of a success on the CBC isn&#039;t just about the ratings, it&#039;s about how much discussion it starts. And this show has started a lot of discussion.&quot;
from
A tinfoil suit in a lightning storm
Poor besieged George Stroumboulopoulos, carrying CBC on his back
Feb 7, 2007

http://www.macleans.ca/culture/media/article.jsp?content=20061225_138619_138619

&quot;The Hour is tracking exactly where I expect it to,&quot; says Kirstine Layfield, executive director of network programming. &quot;We&#039;re really happy with it. It serves a lot of purposes. The main thing is that the measure of a success on the CBC isn&#039;t just about the ratings, it&#039;s about how much discussion it starts. And this show has started a lot of discussion.&quot; The average nightly audience for the program over its first two months on the main network was 110,000 viewers -- a substantial improvement over the 30,000 people Zed, the previous owner of that time slot, used to deliver. The weekly numbers also show a modest upwards trend. However, The Hour&#039;s lead-in, Peter Mansbridge, draws close to 600,000. And the averages camouflage the nights when Stroumboulopoulos&#039;s audience has reportedly(CBC won&#039;t provide the breakdowns)dipped as low as 50,000. Layfield boasts that The Hour has, on occasion, even beaten Jon Stewart&#039;s Daily Show, and The Colbert Report. What she doesn&#039;t add is that those broadcasts of the U.S. comedy shows were reruns. The combined average audience for the two shows on the Comedy Network -- a specialty channel -- is 158,000. When Stewart and Colbert are rebroadcast on the main CTV network at midnight -- an hour later than Stroumboulopoulos -- the number grows to 205,000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The main thing is that the measure of a success on the CBC isn&#8217;t just about the ratings, it&#8217;s about how much discussion it starts. And this show has started a lot of discussion.&#8221;<br />
from<br />
A tinfoil suit in a lightning storm<br />
Poor besieged George Stroumboulopoulos, carrying CBC on his back<br />
Feb 7, 2007</p>
<p><a href="http://www.macleans.ca/culture/media/article.jsp?content=20061225_138619_138619" rel="nofollow">http://www.macleans.ca/culture/media/article.jsp?content=20061225_138619_138619</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The Hour is tracking exactly where I expect it to,&#8221; says Kirstine Layfield, executive director of network programming. &#8220;We&#8217;re really happy with it. It serves a lot of purposes. The main thing is that the measure of a success on the CBC isn&#8217;t just about the ratings, it&#8217;s about how much discussion it starts. And this show has started a lot of discussion.&#8221; The average nightly audience for the program over its first two months on the main network was 110,000 viewers &#8212; a substantial improvement over the 30,000 people Zed, the previous owner of that time slot, used to deliver. The weekly numbers also show a modest upwards trend. However, The Hour&#8217;s lead-in, Peter Mansbridge, draws close to 600,000. And the averages camouflage the nights when Stroumboulopoulos&#8217;s audience has reportedly(CBC won&#8217;t provide the breakdowns)dipped as low as 50,000. Layfield boasts that The Hour has, on occasion, even beaten Jon Stewart&#8217;s Daily Show, and The Colbert Report. What she doesn&#8217;t add is that those broadcasts of the U.S. comedy shows were reruns. The combined average audience for the two shows on the Comedy Network &#8212; a specialty channel &#8212; is 158,000. When Stewart and Colbert are rebroadcast on the main CTV network at midnight &#8212; an hour later than Stroumboulopoulos &#8212; the number grows to 205,000.</p>
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		<title>By: Marion Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marion Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CBC’™s role is not just about market share, it’™s not about being seen as a taxpayer-subsidized competitor to private broadcasters. It’™s about being where there are market failures, it’™s about being a platform for Canadian content in all regions of the country in both official languages to support Canadian content.<br />
’” Heritage Minister James Moore,</p>
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